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Friday, August 7, 2009

How to destroy North Carolina's Economy - Brought to you by the people in charge!!!

The leaders of the old North State are at it again, raising taxes by another $1 billion. Will they ever figure out that this State's taxes are high enough already? They need to refocus the money that is already coming in. Psst... People are hurting already, it's going to be hard to bleed the turnips. The sheer idiocy of our State's elected leaders and bureaucrats baffles me. Do they really think raising the sales tax rate is going to increase revenues? Do you (the citizens) think this is going to bring our budget into balance? Have y'all ever heard of the Laffer curve?

Video about the Laffer Curve

I want you to go see the recorded vote. When this bill blows up in the State's face then I hope that the people who voted for this monstrosity will be held accountable. North Carolina Appropriations Act of 2009. Senate Roll Call. House Roll Call.

According the the News and Observer -- The budget includes temporary taxes worth $990 million. About 80 percent of that comes from increasing the sales tax rate by one penny, so that most consumers would pay 7.75 cents on each dollar they spend through mid-2011. Corporate profits would face a 3 percent surtax for two years. Cigarette taxes will rise permanently by 10 cents per pack.

Hound Opinion: With the additional 1-cent added to the sales tax rate, we are moving towards the highest rates in the nation. Currently only 10 states have a combined sales tax rate of over 8% and ours will now be 7.75 cents in most communities. Three of those States don't have a State Income tax. Personally, I could care less about the Cigarette tax, which will rise permanently by 10-cents per pack to 45-cents, because I don't smoke; but it is a regressive tax that hurts our poorest citizens and if it does lead to fewer smokers or packs smoked, then it is not going to increase revenues.

The state is also going to increase income taxes exhorbinantly on people making over $60,000 a year and couples making over $100,000. So if an individual is making $100,000 a year, then that means they are going to be paying an additional $800 in taxes on top of what they are already paying; plus whatever taxes Washington decides they want, and this is just income tax. That is money being taken out of the private sector and being redirected towards the wasteful whims and fantasies of Elected Officials, who have proven they don't know how to maintain finances to start with. That is how we got into the hole we are now in. Maybe if people like Mike Easley and his wife weren't living it up on the taxpayer dime, then none of this would have ever been contemplated.

Corporate profits will face a 3 percent surtax for two years. So, we have a State unemployment rate of 11.2% and 15.5% here in Catawba County. I don't think business has laid people off for the heck of it. Statistics show that 98.1% of people employed in North Carolina are employed by small businesses. And here is our state taking 3% away from these company's bottom line over the next two years. How many of these businesses are going to be pushed over the edge into bankruptcy.

Many of you know that I am a Chef. I understand small business. My aunt owns 1859 Cafe here in Hickory. I laugh when I hear people, on the outside looking in, who think that her business is a money machine. She pays sales tax quarterly and the State isn't going to wait around for you to pay it. She pays a liquor license fee and an additional tax on each bottle she purchases from the ABC. She pays for a beer and wine license, as well as a license to use alcohol at catering events. Did you know that each restaurant pays to be inspected by both the health department and fire department? She pays city and county property taxes and an occupancy fee. She also matches FICA on each employee's wages that work for her. And if she turns a profit, then she has to pay Capital Gains tax and tax on her personal income. And here is our wonderful State, who seem to think money grows on trees, and think an extra 3% is just laying around that won't be missed. Hey guess what State of North Carolina, people are already having to cut back on eating out. That means less revenue and less chance to profit (Doh!!!). They don't have a clue.

A couple more jewels that McClatchy News Service reported. The first will assess sales tax on most digital downloads, including music, videos and ringtones, starting Jan. 1. That means a 99-cent iTunes download, for example, will instead cost $1.07. The second Internet-related tax is more complicated. Basically, it will allow the state to begin charging sales tax Sept. 1 on purchases from online merchants who make sales through referrals from N.C. Web site owners. Amazon.com has such a program, but discontinued it in North Carolina in June to avoid having to assess sales tax.

The Hound sees the ramifications of what is being done. Everyone wants to blindly maintain the status quo. No one wants to admit they have made mistakes and/or admit to past errors in judgment. The damage that has already been done will continue to snowball, because everyone involved is unwilling to go back to square one and totally rebuild our State's revenue structure.

We have to address issues that have harmed business. We have to help retain businesses that are on the brink of catastrophe and help entrepreneurs foster start-ups. These bills do none of that. These bills will keep these processes from being implemented.

In your gut, do you really think we aren't taxed enough? In my opinion, if you aren't willing to pay more money into the system yourself, then you have no right to demand more from others. That is where the Statists always get you. They create hostility and resentment towards others and all they do is take and take and take some more -- from everyone.

The effects of our government's actions are changing people's behavior. I believe that we are heading to the point where people are going to start usurping the injustices of The State Code and Tax System whenever possible. You are going to see Black Markets arise, Cash under the Table Deals, and Bartering become the norm. People will find a way around all of those Internet junk taxes. They are going to bring in very little revenue. Check out the story from the Seattle Post Intelligencer about Federal Tax Reveues Plummeting (The Most since 1932).

Employers that were just hit by an increase in the minimum wage are now being asked to pony up an additional 3% surtax on profit, and soon it will be the Federal Governments turn to increase income taxes and make demands on Employer based Health Care, as well as other hallucinations of grandeur. Riddle me this. If you are a business owner, why would you hire anyone at this time?

Government, at all levels, has created all of the elements needed to crash our economy and most people don't recognize or are in denial that the noose has been slipped around our necks. The only way out of this is Independence and self-sufficiency. That can't be achieved while supporting all of this dead weight. We have to create the elements that will lead to increased economic activity. That is the only way we are going to get people back to work. And without reasonably low unemployment, we cannot ever have a sustainable recovery and economic growth. Think about it. What has the State of North Carolina done that will achieve that goal?

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

Isn't the Laffer Curve the same dumb idea Reagan used during the 1980's. Worked good then huh.

Mike W. said...

The 98% employment in small business is alarming. This number seems to indicate an extreme dependency on service industries without a strong base of large, high paying employers. No wonder NC's economy is so volatile. It's also no wonder that our educated citizens look for opportunity elsewhere rather than floundering in a low-tech ecomony.

Americans pay an increasing amount of taxes because our appetite for government goodies is also increasing exponentialy.

Every state gets you. Even in uber conservative Texas, you pay astronomical property tax, sky high sales tax, and get nickel and dimed everywhere else. These things offset the absence of an income tax.

James Thomas Shell said...

I do believe that we suffer from the low-tech blues, but most high-tech businesses are small businesses, especially the start-ups.

I do believe you are correct about volatility, but small business will be the path to the future in a knowledge or creative economy.

CA said...

Tom - Are you arguing that local and state governments don't need additional revenues, or that you don't think they should get it? If everyone were to agree with your unconditional anti-tax stand, what should be done about the hundreds of thousands of state residents who desperately need state programs and services (e.g. Medicaid, educational reform, unemployment services, child care, job training, economic development, etc., etc.)? Anti-tax screeds are both popular and easy, but serious economic development challenges, if they are to be overcome, seem to require more careful thought from us.

James Thomas Shell said...

I did not say that I am against all taxes, but we cannot afford to raise taxes at this time.

How can anyone be against any and all taxes? What I believe is that our revenue sources need to be redirected towards the growth of commercial enterprises, so that we can put people back to work. Why does our state need to raise its budget from $18 billion to $19 billion? Could they not make-do with last years budget?

You want these services from the state? What do you do to deserve them? What have you contributed and what are you willing to contribute in the future? Or do you prefer to be one of the anchors pulling down our economy?

As of July 9, 2009, the Federal Government has approved $423 million in projects for the State of North Carolina. North Carolina has submitted $2 billion in bids and now the state is asking for even more from our own citizens.

MY question to you CA, is where does this all end? What is the end game? When is enough, enough?

I think it ends in a broken economy and broken spirit for the people that make this state work. And in the end, the siphoners will end up with nothing as a result.

What are your solutions? I know we could be submitting Oil lease bids off of the North Carolina coast that would easily makes up for this shortfall, but you (and the talking points) are probably against that also, aren't you?

CA said...

Hmm. I thought NC had a broken economy and a broken spirit among its residents already. Anyway, it's hard to engage in a discussion on such a complex and critically important subject when one has to justify his right to participate and the other possesses the absolute, "right" solution.

One comment. if I must justify my right to emphasize the needs of state residents who are suffering from the recession through no fault of their own and are willing to work but find themselves ill-equipped and unable to do so, who are you to refuse them?

As to your final series of question, what are we talking about - ending the recession or state tax increases? With "debtor" counties like ours always running to Raleigh seeking state subsidies and handouts to solve our problems for us, it will probably be easier to end the recession.

James Thomas Shell said...

You are right It is hard to collaborate with people who want to play Shell games. My last name is Shell and I know a Shell game when I see one. You seem to be trying to be adept at obfuscating the context of the subject I am addressing.

What I have addressed is opinion, but it is under a pretext wrapped in fact. Where are your facts? You are entitled to have an opinion, but if you can't bring facts, then it is going to be hard to have a discussion.

The only thing I am guilty of is thought crimes. In the PC world of today, I don't think right and I don't always speak the right language. I'm supposed to always softball the issues. Well, I'm not going to try to talk the guy back into giving the money back to the bank after he has robbed it. Sometimes confrontation is necessary.I think it's too bad that we aren't allowed to freely express ourselves in this country anymore.

I addressed absolutes because they are valid. Are you willing to live with the consequences of breaking the bank? It sure seems like you are to me. How magnanimous of you to decide how to confiscate the assets of one group and decide how to spread the wealth.

I feel as sorry for the people that are unemployed or underemployed as you do. I am one of them. Are you?

History shows that we are headed down the wrong path. The 1930s and 1970s show that we are headed down the down the wrong path. The light at the end of the tunnel is a freight train.

We have to put people back. I really think that most of these unemployed people would rather have jobs and none of this is creating job opportunities. And the consequences of all of these actions will come home to roost next year. Would you like to bet against me on that?

I don't understand why you won't answer the questions I posed to you. I presented facts. It certainly appears that you didn't read what I wrote or look at the graphs or video I presented. I think that certainly says a lot.

CA said...

Ah. This is getting interesting. We're both talking, to use your figure of speech, about "robbing the bank", Tom. We're just differing as to how the proceeds should be distributed and put to work. My "magnanimous" position is that economic development can and should be promoted simultaneously in many ways, including some with which I think you would agree. In a democratic society, however, it seems to depend as much as anything on getting people together - not judging or polarizing them - to create and maintain the right political and socio-economic environment in which businesses can flourish. That would seem to be especially relevant, in response to a concern that is understandably of personal concern to you and your family, to the restaurant business.

Before accepting some sort of "bet" as to what 2010 will bring, I need a better idea as to what specific "roost" I am being challenged to bet for or against.

As far as the 30's and 70's are concerned, there are many reputable historians who would totally disagree with your contention that we headed down the wrong path in dealing with the problems and possibiities of the times. I suppose your assessment depends on your assumptions as what the right paths were.

As far as facts are concerned, history is full of them and virtually none are totally "objective." As one must suspect daily, statistics can be used both to lie and obfuscate. Since I don't treat "facts" as "proof texts," selected to buttress my presently held ideas, I am not interested in playing that game here. I would be happy, however, to discuss American economic history with you at any time, as long as there was no requirement that either of us be "coverted" to a particular point of view.

James Thomas Shell said...

OK. Well enjoy your imaginary world. Sorry, I am arguing from an economic standpoint, not from political demagoguery. Don't really have time for that.

Yeah, I'm sure that we can always find a couple of people to tell us the sun is going to rise in the west tomorrow. The economic data speaks for itself. Fact and truths are principles that are important to sustaining positive momentum in life, without them all we have is chaos.

You can have the last word, this is boring to me since you are only choosing hyperbole over substance. I think you are only coming at this from a party angle and frankly I could care less about that, since I am enchanted with neither at the moment.

If you want to continue the dialogue, then present some substantive statistics or context to support whatever position you are taking, because all you are doing is attacking my position that I forthrightly set out for all to see. At least I stand for something. And I think everyone can see that.

CA said...

If it is facts you must have, I would recommend the following book. Its 528 pages are full of facts and the analyses and concusions are those with which I agree.

Building the Next American Century: The Past and Future of American Economic Competitiveness (Woodrow Wilson Center Press) (Paperback)
by Kent H. Hughes (Author)
5.0 out of 5 stars
Price: $24.95

Peace...

Anonymous said...

The Laffer Curve is entirely discredited. Here's a link that shows how Bush tax cuts have killed revenues. You're right about a sales tax being a bad idea - it's a regressive tax that hurts lower income people. Consider: under Bill Clinton 23 million jobs were created; 450k in manufacturing. Under Bush, 5 million jobs were created, with a loss of 3.2 million in manufacturing. GDP growth was a bit more under Clinton, but not enough to explain this difference. The key is that Repubs keep cutting taxes for the wealthy and for corporations that outsource jobs. Repubs from Reagan on also raised the self-employment tax by 66% The small business issue is moot in itself - the issue is why is a small businessperson who makes $400k not paying his fair share of taxes, when the one making $60k does? Let's strive for fairness in the tax code, i.e., raise taxes on incomes over $220k, put a large surcharge on large 7 figure incomes, and tax [large] corporate profits to provide relief for the less well off, and to fund services that improve quality of life for all. Small tax increases for the wealthy under Clinton helped the economy thrive, Bush tax cuts for the wealthy cost us trillions. Now if Obama raises rates back to where they were, the right calls him a socialist. What gives?


http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/16/failing-to-pass-the-laffer-test/

Anonymous said...

"What I believe is that our revenue sources need to be redirected towards the growth of commercial enterprises, so that we can put people back to work."

This sentence sums up the basic flaw of this blog - sloppy, meaningless blather presented as profundity.

James Thomas Shell said...

Clinton rose taxes in 1993. The House and senate cut taxes in 1995. So you basic premise is shot from the get-go.

Then I am told what I espouse is blather, when I am clueless to understand how what was quoted can be construed as blather.

The greatness of this blog is that you are entitled to voice your opinion without being shut down, like happens on so many other blogs.

Sad to see more leftist rhetoric -- oh well.